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Re: Observatives
- To: lojban-list
- Subject: Re: Observatives
- From: cowan (John Cowan)
- Date: Tue, 21 May 91 14:14:27 EDT
- In-Reply-To: <9104191549.AA01199@luna.math.ucla.edu>; from "math.ucla.edu!jimc" at Apr 19, 91 8:49 am
la djim. kartr. puzu cusku di'e:
> "A crocodile!"
> is a typical observative, in which the listener's attention is called
> to the referent set member(s) of the bare sumti.
("puzu" = "a long time earlier".)
I missed this point and only caught it
when surveying the old messages in lojban-archive (administrivia: we
do keep such an archive and can forward old messages if needed).
Lojban does not usually interpret "lo resprkrokodilo" as "A crocodile!"
The normal translation of that would be a bare selbri: "resprkrokodilo",
meaning "something-unspecified is-a-crocodile", possibly with an attitudinal
like "za'a" (I observe!) or perhaps "ii" (Fear!).
A bare sumti is normally used in reply to a sumti question with "ma":
ma batci do le tuple .i lo resprkrokodilo
What is biting you on the leg? A crocodile.
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