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feminism
- To: John Cowan <cowan@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Raymond <eric@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Tiedemann <est@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>
- Subject: feminism
- From: cbmvax!uunet!GNU.AI.MIT.EDU!pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!bob
- Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was bob@GRACKLE.STOCKBRIDGE.MA.US
- In-Reply-To: Logical Language Group's message of Tue, 17 Dec 1991 18:23:46 -0500 <9112172330.AA06891@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
- Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!gnu.ai.mit.edu!pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!bob
- Sender: Lojban list <cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!LOJBAN>
Lojbab asked for reader inferred place structures for the following:
loi nimjizdunkri
loi nimnaujizdunkri
Before reading the rest of his message I came up with:
nimjizdunkri
x1 is a
ninmu jinzi dunli krici
woman type-of intrinsic-property type-of equality-property type-of believer
and
nimnaujizdunkri
x1 is a
ninmu nanmu jinzi dunli krici
woman-man type-of intrinsic-property t-of equality-property t-of believer
both of which are very close to what Lojbab intended I infer.
I agree with lojbab
that a reader of such a sentence [incorporating these lojban words]
would easily be able to understand the lujvo and its place structure.
I think that the problems people fear are based on theoretical
possibilities rather than what happens in cooperative, everyday
conversation.
By the way, for those who want to try the experiment, here are the
definitions from the 9/90 gismu list:
ninmu nim ni'u woman women
x1 is a woman/women; x1 is a female person
(not necessarily adult)
nanmu nau man
x1 is a man/men; x1 is a male person (not necessarily adult)
jinzi jiz innate
x1 is an innate/inherent/intrinsic property/quality of x2
dunli dun du'i equal
x1 is equal to x2 in/on property/quality/dimension/quantity x3
krici kri believe creed
x1 believes that x2 is true