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Re: Wallops #5 (tranche 2)
- To: John Cowan <cowan@snark.thyrsus.com>
- Subject: Re: Wallops #5 (tranche 2)
- From: CJ FINE <cbmvax!uunet!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!C.J.Fine>
- Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1992 17:49:29 GMT
- In-Reply-To: <no.id>; from "nsn@AU.OZ.MU.EE.MULLIAN" at Jan 26, 92 8:29 pm
- Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!C.J.Fine
- Sender: Lojban list <cbmvax!uunet!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!LOJBAN>
More comments on Nick's Germanos translation (quite a bit less in the
second half)
> .i
> mi fau lenu loi se gugdrnetiopia cu claxu lo cutci cu.e'u se vencu ri gi'e
> dunda ri ra .ifaubo lo se gugdrnetiopia banai bajryjvi fi la maraton.
I have a lot of trouble interpreting .iBAIbo, so I'm not sure if this is
confusing or just whether I don't know how to read it. But I didn't get
the concessive sense of this.
> .imumai vi se cmima ro zajbrnatleta poi se gugde lo te nizyxa'u befi li
> za'ubipimuki'oki'o .ili'a le namcu no'u li bipimuki'oki'o cu curve snuti
> .i na srana lo steci gugde .i mi puzika'e cusku lu pare li'u .onai lu pamu
li'u
> .iku'i seja'e lenu mi cusku lu bipimu li'u cu.e'u za'ubipimuki'oki'omei
"le namcu li'o cu curve snuti"? Understandable, but not precise. Really
ought to have a "lenu" in there.
".i mi puzika'e" - again I don't get a counterfactual sense. "puzipu'o"
would be better, but I suspect that "da'i" is better still.
"za'u8.5,000,000mei" - this looks like a shorthand that doesn't work.
The original context of the numeral was not an anything-mei, so
observing now that something is a something-mei does not work. what's
wrong with ".e'u li 8.5,000,000"?
>.i mi ca'a vimcu le gugdrbrito .e le gugdrdotco
. . .
"ca'a"? This is all counterfactual - I don't know whether you can use
this in that context or not.
> .iku'i mi [ji'u <lenu noda djuno [ro ba fasnu
> <pe lemi zajbrnatleta> <zi'ene[mu'u <le jaitai cikybi'o be ri beica [le nunjvi
> dinri .e lenu ra caku xalbo .e lenu caku na dukse citka ganse]>]>]>] cu.e'u
cmima
> le somoi
I had to put all the above grouping in to be sure, but I think your
".e"'s attach to the wrong place.
That was fun!
Kolin
c.j.fine@bradford.ac.uk