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Allophones of zero in Lojban
- To: John Cowan <cowan@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Raymond <eric@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Tiedemann <est@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>
- Subject: Allophones of zero in Lojban
- From: Rick Miller <cbmvax!uunet!UWM.EDU!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!discus!rick>
- Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1992 13:30:46 CST
- Reply-To: Rick Miller <cbmvax!uunet!UWM.EDU!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!discus!rick>
- Sender: Lojban list <cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!LOJBAN>
Ivan A Derzhanski <uwm!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!COGSCI.ED.AC.UK!iad> writes:
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> I'm generally opposed to the idea of a buffer vowel, because I think
> it would make word recognition much more difficult. I would favour an
> epenthetic schwa, say, {.ymlatu}, where the listener would naturally
> delete the {.y-} as a semantically empty space filler.
I agree with Ivan. It's not as though the dipthong is *difficult* to
pronounce... English-speakers do it all the time (eg: Hamlet, ...um,
ok, maybe not *all* the time.) Anyway, it's just a matter of trying
it out a few times. Even when it's word-initial, it's fairly easy to
recognize with only a little practice.
Perhaps for those who have difficulty with it, the 'm' could be
"vowelized". After all, it's a nazal consonant... just 'lengthen' it
a bit. (eg: the "Mbuti" pygmy tribe. The 'M' is pronounced as its
own syllable <m-BU-ti>.)
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