Re: current cmene project

[Jorge Llambias <jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU>]

la and cusku di'e

> As I understand things, "la beidjin" (for example) refers to something
> named by the form "beidjin" (where the namer is the speaker). It would
> seem to me that if we want a word for (in this case) the capital of
> the Republic of China, we want something that instead means "x such
> that x is Beijing", *NOT* "x such that I am calling x 'beidjin'". If
> this is right, then Lojban Central should be seeking fuhivla, not
> cmene, for the various states of the USA, etc.

I don't see why should there be a difference in naming cities or people.
la beidjin is the name of an individual, not a generic name. A fuhivla
like {tcadrbeidjinu} would mean something like "x1 is a Beijing City".

Here's a list of Latin American countries and capital cities (plus Sao Paulo
and Rio, that are not capitals but belong there anyway).

ketco
=====

Argentina               la arxentinas
  Buenos Aires          la buenosaires

Bolivia                 la bolivias
  La Paz                la pas

Brasil                  la brazIl
  Brasilia              la brazilias
  Sao Paulo             la saopaulos
  Rio de Janeiro        la riodejaneiros; la ri,os

Colombia                la kolombias
  Bogota'               la bogotAs

Chile                   la tciles
  Santiago              la santiagos

Ecuador                 la ekuadOr
  Quito                 la kitos

French Guiana           la fraso gianas (?)
  Cayenne               la kaIEn

Guyana                  la guianas
  Georgetown            la djordjtaun

Paraguay                la paragUAIs
  Asuncio'n             la asunsIOn

Peru'                   la perUs
  Lima                  la limas

Suriname                la sUrinam
  Paramaribo            la paramaribos

Uruguay                 la urugUAIs
  Montevideo            la montevideos

Venezuela               la venesuelas
  Caracas               la karakas


snanu bemro
===========

Belize                  la beliz
  Belize City           la tcadu beliz

Costa Rica              la kostarrikas
  San Jose'             la sanxosEs

Cuba                    la kubas
  La Habana             la abanas

El Salvador             la elsalvadOr
  San Salvador          la sansalvadOr

Guatemala               la guatemAl    (?)
  Guatemala             la guatemales  (?)
                        la guatemalaus (?)
                        la guatemanlas (?)

Honduras                la onduras
  Tegucigalpa           la tegusigalpas

Me'xico                 la mExikos
  Ciudad de Me'xico     la tcadu mExikos; la siudademExikos

Nicaragua               la nikaraguas
  Managua               la managuas

Panama'                 la panamAs
  Panama'               la panamAs

Puerto Rico             la puertorrikos
  San Juan              la sanxUAn


There are a few missing from the Caribean, but I think I covered
at least all the Spanish speaking ones. Please add if you see some missing.

Jorge