> ko klama le zarci rai le ka sutra I would think you want "serai" which is the place that takes the property. and would explicitly say ko klama le zarci serai leka do ka'e sutra to get the "As you can" part in. A more realistic request would use troci ko klama le zarci sekai leka do sutrarai troci (Philip's original "sekai" was missing the "leka") lojbab