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[Logical Language Group <lojbab@access.digex.net>]

Subject: Chinese mainland Lojbanist
I am enclosing a message from Liu Haitao, an interlinguist/computer science
type living on the Chinese mainland.  He has minimal English skills, from
what I understand, and prefers to write in Esperanto, though presumably our
Chinese Lojbanists can write to him in Chinese as well.

Liu wrote to me via snail mail back in 1994, and I believe that Jorge did the
Esperanto translation for me, but I am sending this to both Mark and Jorge
so that someone surely can give me a translation.  After that transla
tion,
i asked Ken Shan to correspond with him, so I including Ken al
so in this,
though I understand not much came of the first round of correspondence.
Perhaps now that he is on the Internet, things will be more effective.
I am including Lin Zhe Min and Lee Sau Dan because they have been helpin
g on
translating Lojban materials into Chinese, and I believe Lee i
f not both of 
them knows some Esperanto as well.

>From what little I gather, he wants to know the ftp addresses to get the ref
grammar and perhaps other things.  You can get the main address from my .sig
 below, and look in the various directories to get specific file names.
Ask me if not sure on anything, but I would like to pass off supporting this
person to you guys collectively, and ask you to keep me informed.  Getting
more Chinese Lojbanists would definitely be a good thing, and we need to be able to support mainland people indirectly since I doubt that they will be able to
practically buy books from us for a while.

lojbab
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> Greetings Liu Haitao.  Indeed, I was just asking about you with our
> correspondents in Taiwan and Hong Kong who I had asked to mail you
> letters and materials back in 1994.
> 

Mi estas tre ghojas, ke vi ankorau memoras min! 

> There is of course the problem of money exchange, but I am hoping
> that we will have people donating money to pay for copies sent to
> countries like yours where purchase would be difficult.  Otherwise,
> there may perhaps be ways to get books there via Hong Kong?
>

Estas bone, se iuj donacas monon por eble sendi la libron al ni tiuj, 
kiuj posedas transpagigan problemon. Dankon pro via helpo.

> I hope we may exchange furtherletters on Lojban.  You may also like
> to exchange correspondence with Chinese or Esperanto Lojbanists
> especially if you still find English correspondence more difficult. 
> (I can give you addresses of two Chinese Lojbanists, and any of
> several Esperanto speaking LOjbanists who are amont the most skilled
> in Lojban).
>

Fakte, mi ne shatas korespondas kun eksterlandano per angla, tial mi 
ankorau skribas al vi per Esperanto. Mi bonvenas la menciitajn 
adresojn, preferite retposhta adreso(E-mail address!).

> YOu are encouraged to get materials from our WWW site and perhaps
> eventually to join our mailing list called Lojban List.  The latter
> sometimes has large amounts of traffic (including at present) which
> might cause problems or excessive costs for you.  Most of our
> material including a late draft version of The Complete Lojban
> Language is available on the WWW site or via FTP.
> 

Jhus, mi akiras "Reference Grammar" en via FTP-ejo. Bedaurinde, la 
konekto estas tro malrapida..., Chu vi povas skribi al mi la 
file-name de "The Complete Lojban Language" en FTP-ejo?

Elkore,

Haitao