Re: tremau

[JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS <jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR>]

Lojbab:
 >You seem to be straining to keep it a ka, perhaps out of unwillingness to
>accept that (At least in intent) ni is supposed to be the quantity and
>not the indirect question (assuming I know what you mean by this - hmmm
>can we solve this my making the indirect question le nikau ???)

No, I'm not straining to keep anything. There are two different
definitions of {le ni broda}: one is {le jaila'u broda} and the other
is {le ka broda la'u makau}. We just have to choose which one
is correct. Usage favours the second one, the theoretical definitions
favour the first. (All those ni/ka places in the gismu list require the
second, the raised modality.)

>>Some broda already have a quantity place, so they may not need
>>the la'u, as in {zmadu fi le ka mitre makau}.  In these cases you wouldn't
>>use {ni} either, I think.
>
>probably I would use fi le se mitre {be ce'u??? I hardly understand lambda
>enough to know if this would work - and don't expect to be able to explain
it
>to me either %^)}

No, it wouldn't work, {ce'u} always goes inside a {ka}. What you have
would be a clear case of sumti raising.

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