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Re: Knowledge and belief



>Logical Language Group wrote:
>
>> Now if Y is a proposition based on djuno, then the above statement says that
>> someone knows the x2 of Y at time X.  If indeed that someone knows that x2 a
>>  time X, then the fact that this x2 is found to be false should not change
>> the truth valiue of the X-time knowledge claim.
>
>What we're saying is that "x1 knows that x2 at time X" and "x2 is false" are
>contradictory statements.  If x2 turns out to be false, then x1 didn't
>know x2 at any time, no matter what x1 or anyone else believed at time X.


But where does the epistemology/metaphysics come in?  Your English has left 
them out, and I am sufficiently Lojbanized in my English meanings that
"x2 is false" is hopelessly ambiguous to me barring a lot more context.
Was x2 false at time X?  Was x2 at time X false?  Were these false by
x1's worldview/epistemology/choice of metaphysics?  Unless the speaker
is explicitly brought into the bridi, I think that the speaker's metaphysics
should be irrelevant  (I'll amend that - the speaker may be brouyght into
the text at large via context, in which case I would consider the speaker's
world view to be implicitly relevant.

BTW, if I understand what pc wrote, I agree with all he said.

lojbab
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