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place structure of lujvo
- To: John Cowan <cowan@snark.thyrsus.com>, Ken Taylor <taylor@gca.com>
- Subject: place structure of lujvo
- From: Ivan A Derzhanski <cbmvax!uunet!pucc.princeton.edu!iad>
- In-Reply-To: David Cortesi's message of Fri, 6 Dec 1991 14:32:03 PST <6962.9112062304@cogsci.ed.ac.uk
- Reply-To: Ivan A Derzhanski <cbmvax!uunet!pucc.princeton.edu!iad>
- Sender: Lojban list <cbmvax!uunet!pucc.princeton.edu!LOJBAN>
> From: David Cortesi <NET.UU.UUNET!infmx!godzilla!cortesi>
>
> There's a recognized phenomenon in early language acquisition
> called "overgeneralizing," when a child first figures out a rule
> and then overapplies it. <...>
>
> Sometimes I feel like that child w.r.t. Lojban.
You shouldn't. There is no sich thing as overgeneralisation in Lojban.
> Nick (in story): le maxri lei manti se sudri'a
>
> Me: I read this as "the wheat the ants dryly caused"
Yes, this is a justified interpretation, but there are others. Recall
that tanru are Lojban's only source of ambiguity.
> Nick: The x1 of sudga becomes the x2 of sudri'a
Yes, the "x1" of {sudga} is the "x2" of {rinka} and of {sudri'a}.
> Me: You are saying that for gismu G and H, the argument pattern of a
> lujvo GH is: h1 GH g1... ?
No. The argument pattern of GH is "h1 GH h2 h3 h4 h5". It just
happens that the "x2" of H is also "x1" of G.
> Nick: Actually, I was going with h1 g1 g2 ... h2 ...
Wrong. In this case, it is "h1 GH (h2=g1)".
co'omi'e .iVAN.