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Lojban Names.
- To: John Cowan <cowan@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Raymond <eric@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>, Eric Tiedemann <est@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>
- Subject: Lojban Names.
- From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <cbmvax!uunet!CTR.COLUMBIA.EDU!shoulson>
- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1992 09:23:04 -0500
- In-Reply-To: Julian Pardoe's message of Wed, 11 Mar 1992 19:23:00 GMT
- Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" <cbmvax!uunet!CTR.COLUMBIA.EDU!shoulson>
- Sender: Lojban list <cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!pucc.Princeton.EDU!LOJBAN>
For me, I've never heard anyone who really says {lndn}. Here where I live,
the closest pronunciation is probably {LYndn} or maybe {LYndyn}, and that's
pretty much what I've heard from native speakers from the area as well,
though theirs is closer to {*landn}, which is a no-no, because of the
{la-}. {london} doesn't really sound too far off to me, but then, what say
should a native New Jerseyan have in how to pronounce the capital of
England? :-)
Julian comments:
>> What on earth is {laibax}? It is not even a cmene (you can't have {la}
>> inside, except after a consonant, right?)
>Isn't that the syllable {la} not the sequence of letters? {lai} should be OK:
>it can't be interpreted as {la,i} and so there's no danger of hearing the
>word {la}.
Not quite. It's the syllables {la}, {lai}, or {doi}. So {lai-} blows it
anyway. So, incidentally, does a trick Nick has occasioannly used, of
replacing {la} syllables with {la'a}. So far as I know, although the name
ca't start with {'a}, the syllable {la} is still illegal, so you can't use
{la'a}. As to {lai}, the reason {la} is forbidden is because it may
precede a name sans pause (as the "that-named" article). {lai} has the
same problem, since it is the "the-mass-named" article. Sorry.
~mark