Re: Reflexivity

Looking at the debate on sevzi, I suspect that the wording of the
definition is the weak point.  "self-image" was specifically intended by
me to refer to reflexivity.  But English had no obvious word for it.
"He loves his reflexive" (???).

I see no problem in my image of sevzi with saying
"le toknu cu lumci leri sevzi  as
being essentially identical in meaning to
"le toknu cu lumci ri"

I can probably be convinced that there is indeed a separate concept of
"Self" that sevzi should cover, and we need a different way to lujvo-ize
a reflexive.

I might be inclined to just give "ri" a rafsi - "riz" is the only
relevant one available though.  And the rafsi assignments for sevzi
assumed the usage frequency implicit in its being the reflexive.

lojbab


Message 10:
Date: Mon, 15 May 95 13:37:51 EDT
From: jorge@phyast.pitt.edu
To: lojbab@access.digex.net
Subject: Re: {prenu} vs. {remna}

> I would pronounce your last anme (barring your explanation of Argentinian
> phonology) as liam,bi,as.

Yes, that's correct, but in order to pronounce it like that in Spanish
you need to know that there is an accent mark over the i, otherwise in
Spanish it would be liam,bias with two syllables, because dipfthongs
work like in Lojban.  (Instead of breaking them with a comma, we break
them with the accent mark.)

On the other hand, those English speakers who don't know anything about
Spanish tend to pronounce it lam,bias.

Jorge