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Knowledge & Belief



>At 1997-12-31 09:13, Steven Belknap wrote:
>
>><la stivn djuno le du'u la xorxes djuno le du'u la lojbab klama le zarci
>>kei fo da>
>>
>>"Steven knows that Jorge knows that Lojbab goes to the store."
>>
>>The above statement is always false, which considerably limits its utility.
>>I am asserting that it is not possible to directly know that some else
>>knows something.
>
>Are you drawing a distinction between 'know' and 'directly know'?

"know" is an English word with multiple meanings. <djuno> is a lojban word.
I am talking about <djuno>, not "know".

>It what
>sense is it not possible to know that someone else knows something, but
>it is possible to know that someone else does something? Bear in mind
>that in both cases, 'knowledge' is mediated through imperfect senses.
>
>In any case, your definition of 'know' is at variance with the standard
>one, with which it certainly is possible to "know" that someone knows
>something. Go ask anyone on the street.
>
True. Again, "know" is an English word.


Steven Belknap, M.D.
Assistant Professor of Clinical Pharmacology and Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Peoria