Re: Final Gismu Place Structure Review -- Please Comment

[A.D.M.Smith@BRADFORD.AC.UK]

For what it's worth, here are some musings on the proposals put
  forward:

1 (kubli)   Yes

2 (kafke/vamtu) I agree that fart and burp are part of the same gismu, and
   they should clearly both be 'kafke'. 'vamtu' is a VIOLENT expulsion of
   digestive tract substances, so 'kalcyvamtu' for 'defecate' (a la Nick)
    seems wrong  to me in most cases . What's wrong with 'kalcyvikmi'?

3 (liste) Yes

4 (bancu)  I'm still unconvinced (as are others) that bancu is really
    necessary at all, as we have 'zmadu' and 'ragve' already. Someone (Cowan?)
    recently posted an argument about four people sitting round a
    rectangular table, saying that from the speaker's point of view, all
    three people are 'bancu' the table, but only the one opposite him is
    'ragve' the table. I suggest, however, that all three are 'ragve' the
    table from his point of view, but in different directions. You can
    specify these if you want ('zulragve','prityragve'), but whether you do
    or not, I still think the other people are 'ragve' the table.

5 (banli) There is a difference between 'big' and 'great' but I can't express
      it very well in my mind. It's something to do with superlatives, extra,
       special for some reason ... I dunno really, but I agree it needs to
       be cleared up.

6 (ckafi) Yes

7 (cmoni) Yes

8 (cnisa/tinci)  These metaphors seem a bit odd to me, so I'm not sure if
    this is relevant, but does it matter that 'cnisa' is already a metaphor
    for 'heavy,malleable)?

9 (dargu/naxle) Yes

10 (kurki) Yes

11 (lenjo) Definitely

12 (fagri) Likewise

13 (jemna) I think we should keep the x2 place as it is : se jemna for
     something with a jewel in it seems potentially useful to me

14 (jgita/xagri) Yes, of course. What about 'tabra'? Is there an easy way to
     distinguish brass instruments?

15 (pambe)  This seems to be going a bit for to me. It seems fairly essential
    to me that a pump pumps something, and at least that it's propelled by
    something, so I'd keep the current x2 and x5 at least, though I wouldn't
     rule out adding your suggested x2 somewhere.

16 (jalra) Yes

17 (fange) OK

18 (stuzi) As has been pointed out, if 'stuzi' is just ta'e selzva, we might
     as well bin it altogether.

19 (traji) Yes

20 (kagni) Yes

21 (polno) Yes

22 (rapli) Yes

23 (sakci) Yes

24 (zgike) Yes

25 (taxfu) Agree with the comments others made about the body-part,so

        x1 is a garment for body part x2 serving purpose x3

    seems to be the best idea.

26 (bloti) Yes

27 (farlu) God knows, but probably correct.

28 (macnu) Yes

29 (slaka) OK I think

30 (speni) Definitely - I've often wondered how best to express "girlfriend
     /partner" and this would explicitly clear up 'speni' for this purpose.

31 All seem Ok except 'sluni' *(garlic). There's already a gismu for garlic,
    'sunga', isn't there?

There, hope that all makes a bit of sense

co'omi'e .andruc.