Re: perfective counting & katna

[ucleaar <ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK>]

Jorge:
> > {kancu} means oreckon up the cardinality ofo - a different sense
> > of ocounto than the meaning outter integer-names in sequenceo, and of
> > course that latter sense of count *is* a sequence - a sequence of
> > utterings of integer names. Admittedly, it is not the utterer that is
> > a sequence, so maybe I got the place structure wrong.
> I agree we don't want {kancu}. We need something with {bacru}. I propose
> {nacpoiba'u}.

Shd that be {nacpoirbahu}?

> {nacpoi} is "x1 is a sequence of numbers ordered by rules x2".
> Then {nacpoiba'u} is "x1 utters a sequence of numbers ordered by rules
> x2".
> {mi nacpoiba'u} would be "I count (in the usual order)".
>        mi nacpoiba'u co'a li mu co'u li pano
>        I count from five to ten.

That means "I count at the inception of 5 and at the cessation of 10".

Better is {mi nacpoirbahu tekaa li mu sekaa li pano}, pehipei?
Or {mi nacpoirbahu fi li mu li pa no}.

Or - though I doubt this is allowed at present - {mi nacpoirbahu
secoa li mu secou li pano}.

> > > i ue le jinci enai la lorenas cu katna le pinji be le ly speni
> > uenai lo dakfu gau la djudit cu katna lo stedu be la xolofernes
> i xu lo'e cnebo cu pagbu lo stedu

pehi na gohi

> i no'i mi za'onai fapro do joi la goran joi le munje le du'u xukau
> lo'e katna cu gasnu  (to lu za'onai cu xamgu xelfanva zoi gy no
> longer gy pe'ipei toi)

pehi juocui gohi. i lu "No longer broda" liu valsi laelu
"(already) bao broda" liu i se kiu bo ri se valsi lu zaonai liu
i ma se valsi ro cmima be zo ba'o ce zo ca'o ce zo co'a ce zo co'i
ce zo co'u ce zo de'a ce zo di'a ce zo mo'u ce zo pu'o beo ceo bae
zo nai? (to soe cuo suu diu na tergea toi)
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And