Re: PLI: "except"

[Goran Topic <topic@STUDENT.MATH.HR>]

> I don't know. Let's complicate it a little bit more:
>
>         ko'a spaji le du'u la bil cu cinba la salis
>
> Does that mean:
>
>         She is surprized that even Bill kissed Sally.
>         She is surprized that Bill even kissed Sally.
>         She is surprized that Bill kissed even Sally.
>
> Or does it simply mean:
>
>         She is surprized that Bill kissed Sally.
>
> I would say the last one. How do we do the other three?

.i lenu dukse cu cumki .iku'i pe'i di'e seke djica smuni .i lu

  .i ko'a spaji ledu'u la bil. kau ji'a cinba la salis.
  .i ko'a spaji ledu'u la bil. cinba kau ji'a la salis.
  .i ko'a spaji ledu'u la bil. cinba la salis. kau ji'a

li'u .i zo kau na la'a jai sarcu

> It is not really a matter of surprize. How do you translate:
>
>         Not surprizingly, even Bill went to the dance.

.uenai .i'unai la bil. ji'a se dansycu'u

> It is not surprize-to-the-speaker that "even" shows. It is
> general unexpectedness with regard to how the world ought to be
> according to the background assumptions of the language community
> as a whole. A savvy speaker may not be surprized by even the
> most unexpected of things. The one least likely to go to the dance
> was Bill, but maybe there was some overriding attraction that
> made it not surprizing that even he went.
>
> The same applies to already/still/at last. It is not the speaker
> that rules the unexpectedness. It is perfectly reasonable to say:
> "As I expected, he is still here", or "he finally started, three
> hours late, which didn't surprize me one bit". I don't think that
> ".ue" has much to do with this.

.e'u lu

  .i .uanai ko'a za'o zvati ti
  .i .uanaisai ko'a cacra belici lerci jai cfari .uo

li'u .i pe'i rolo simsa be di'u zo'u sarcu falenu krefu jdica fida .i to
mi na'e birti tu'a lo smuni be lo cmavo be zo .ui .i lenu mi norjmi cu
cumki

co'o mi'e. goran.

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