Re: do all nu's happen?

["Lee Daniel Crocker (none)" <lcrocker@MERCURY.COLOSSUS.NET>]

> And:
>>I don't see why du`u can't serve for these imaginable events.
>>True a du`u is not an imaginable event, but it is easy to
>>define denpa as "x1 waits for x2 [du`u] to become the case",
>>whereas I can't easily think of a good definition of denpa
>>is x2 can be an imaginary event. Maybe "X1 waits for x2 to
>>become actual".
>
> I think you are convincing me (again!) that you're right.
> But it is not only intentional gismu that would be affected.
> Consider for example [cfari, fasnu, etc.]...

I can see the confusion, but I'm not sure I like And's
particular solution (using du'u).  Why not simply leave {nu}
as a possibly-fictional event, and when necessary, add a
{poi fasnu} now and then.  True, that makes quantification
awkward, but we can move that to a {fasnu} predicate as well:

  {le nu mi bajra noi re fasnu...} "The possibly-fictional
  event(s) of my running (which-incidentally actually happened
  twice)..."

If that makes {nu do gerku} true if I can even imagine your
being a dog, then sobeit: that's the nature of abstraction.
We can still talk about non-abstract {fasnu}, so why cripple
{nu} with the burden of reality?

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