nu & fasnu

[And Rosta <a.rosta@UCLAN.AC.UK>]

Lojbab:
> It is most certainly the case that "nu" does not claim occurance.  "fasnu"
> is the predicate that claims actual or potential occurance, and takes a
> "nu" predication as x1.  But in my mind, a nu predication need not even
> be a potential event, though perhaps it has to be a conceivable event.

As Jorge said, an event must exist in space-time -- it must occur
-- just as dogs, people, flowers, kisses do.

If I understood John correctly, "nu" does claim occurrence (by
definition: it means "is an occurrer"), but not necessarily in
this world, unless preceded by ca`a. But exactly the same would
apply to fasnu.

Hence the difference between nu and fasnu is syntactic rather
than semantic. IIRC (Netscape keeps on timing out when I try to
reach xiron), fasnu is one place. But if you could say
{da fasnu le du`u ....} then it would be virtually identical
to {nu}.

--And