Re: kissing (was: Re: Summary so far on DJUNO

[Logical Language Group <lojbab@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET>]

>But klama is different from binxo. Klama has three relevant places, and
>binxo only two. This brings up another question I wanted to ask. What
>is the proper way of using binxo?
>
>                le bitmu cu binxo lo blabi
>                The wall becomes something white.
>
>                le bitmu cu binxo le ka blabi
>                The wall becomes white.
>
>The gi'uste seems to suggest the first, but I'm unconfortable with it.

I would say the first.  The second would then be expressed as
le bitmu cu binxo lo se ckaji be le ka blabi

>It seems that x1 and x2 are referring to the same object, which
>would be saying that something becomes itself.

You are fiddling around with the "identity" sense of "become".  If I become
a Frech-speaker, I am still myself.  I am then a French speaker too,  Have I
become myself?

There is an implicit time transition in binxo.  The x1 is a before-state
that may or may not apply afterwards.  The x2 (probably) must not apply before
the time transition.

lojbab